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Irvington Town Council

Special Called Meeting

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Speaker 1

0:00 There we go. I need a rubbish too far. Frances Westbrook here. Mary Windsor Cline here. Mary Carey Bradley here. Julie Harris here. Sam Van Saun is absent and Mr. Nunnally is absent. Before we approve the agenda, is there a motion to change the agenda to allow public comment? It's not on this agenda.

Speaker 2

0:30 Did we not have public comment on this for the dedicated budget public comment last time? How is that?

Speaker 3

0:39 So I think we're supposed to have public comment for second reading.

Speaker 1

0:43 Oh, well and it and it does say that in one of these.

Speaker 4

0:46 That was my mistake.

Speaker 3

0:47 So but so I will move that we add public comment to the agenda.

Speaker 5

0:53 I second. Okay.

Speaker 1

0:57 So is there a motion to I guess we just did. I'm done. Approve the agenda. I. Okay. I. And all those in favor? Alright. So then next would be public comment.

Speaker 6

1:11 Thank you. I was

Speaker 1

1:13 gonna say that'd be you.

Speaker 6

1:13 Yeah. I'm not gonna say any different than I said before, so Phil was right to ask that question. If you pass this budget, you're essentially overtaxing the community and squirreling money away to do something with it. You're not telling the community what it is.

1:35 Thank you.

Speaker 1

1:40 Any additional comment? That's your comment. Okay. Alright. Moving on to adoption of the proposed fiscal year twenty twenty six twenty seven, budget and associated ordinances. The first ordinance is twenty twenty six zero one, readopting, excuse me, the meals tax rate. Second reading?

Speaker 3

2:04 I move that we readopted the, that we adopt ordinance twenty twenty six zero one.

Speaker 1

2:13 Is there a second?

Speaker 2

2:14 Second. And that's 3%?

Speaker 3

2:18 Mhmm. We didn't change any of the tax rates.

Speaker 2

2:20 Okay.

Speaker 1

2:21 Alright. And I'm gonna do all of these as a roll call vote. So Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Nunnally is absent. Van Saun is absent. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes. Alright. Ordinance twenty twenty six zero two, readopting the transient occupancy tax rate. Second reading. Any comments?

Speaker 3

2:46 I move that we adopt ordinance twenty twenty six zero two, readopting the transient occupancy tax rate at the rate referenced in the resolution, which is the same rate it was last year. Okay. Yep.

Speaker 1

3:01 Second? Second.

3:06 Okay. Roll call vote, Bradley? Yes. Applying?

Speaker 3

3:10 Yes.

Speaker 1

3:10 Nunnally is absent. Robinson? Yes. Van Saunnally is absent. Westbrook? Yes.

3:20 Alright. Ordinance twenty twenty six zero three readdopting the real estate tax rate. Second reading.

Speaker 3

3:32 I move that we adopt ordinance twenty twenty six zero three readdopting the real estate tax the same rate as it was last year, which is point zero two one five per $100 of assessed value.

Speaker 1

3:49 And second?

Speaker 2

3:50 Second. I I will make a note that on this form, at least, that's being presented on the town website, it has Frederick Johnson as a

Speaker 1

3:59 Oh, I did notice that. Thank you for bringing that up.

Speaker 2

4:02 Frederick Johnson as a voting person as

Speaker 4

4:05 On the realistic tax one?

Speaker 2

4:07 Yes. On twenty twenty six zero four says Mary Cay Bradley, Philip Robinson, Wayne Nunnally, Frederick Johnson. But

Speaker 1

4:14 that's on where did you find that? I mean, it here's this one's different.

Speaker 2

4:17 Okay. I'm just on the website. Okay.

Speaker 1

4:19 The website. Okay.

Speaker 2

4:20 I'm just making sure that

Speaker 1

4:21 Yeah. This one has has it corrected, what was in our packet.

Speaker 2

4:25 Okay. And

Speaker 1

4:29 before I call for the vote, mister Nunnally is not here to express, but he wanted me to express that he is not in favor of the real estate tax.

Speaker 3

4:41 I'm shocked. Call the rescue squad. I'm having a heart attack. Sorry. That was inappropriate. I apologize.

Speaker 1

4:49 Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Nunnally is absent. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? No.

5:03 Okay. So we have three yeses, one no, and two absent.

5:16 Well, it doesn't carry. Right?

Speaker 3

5:21 It needs to be two thirds, it's financial.

Speaker 1

5:24 It's Four people. We need four people.

Speaker 2

5:28 And if we change it, we have to go back to public hearing and do it all over.

Speaker 3

5:33 And the I mean, at this point, the budget is dead as well. You can't pass the budget with the with the without the real estate tax. So

Speaker 1

5:47 Alright. I'll change mine. I'm not gonna hold that up.

5:54 So you're a yes? I will under protest. Yes.

Speaker 3

5:59 Thank you.

Speaker 6

6:00 You're welcome.

Speaker 1

6:05 Alright.

6:08 Next is ordinance twenty twenty six zero four adopting the fiscal year twenty twenty six twenty seven. Fee rate schedule, second reading. Any comments? Can I vote no on this one? No. I'm kidding. Fran. Well, the fee rate schedule, I guess,

Speaker 2

6:26 you know, because that's just what we get for

Speaker 3

6:28 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1

6:28 For cops. Theory, you did

Speaker 3

6:31 vote against somebody who won't hold the budget.

Speaker 1

6:33 Making a joke. I'm

Speaker 3

6:36 gonna move that we adopt ordinance 2020 six zero four adopting the fee rate schedule as presented.

Speaker 2

6:44 Second.

Speaker 1

6:47 Okay. Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. At least absent. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

6:59 Ordinance ordinance twenty twenty six zero five adopting the fiscal year twenty twenty twenty seven budget. Second reading. Before I make a motion Mhmm. I would like to

Speaker 3

7:17 acknowledge mister Cooper's comments. I do not feel that the budget is squirreling away money for purposes that we're not disclosing to the public, although I respect your opinion on that one. I personally am not squirreling away money for unknown purposes. But I do think we need to be more deliberate in our building of the budget. Budget and Finance Committee for years has been slowly putting more structure around this and as you all know we start the process in January and we ask for information from people and it is very difficult to get information and if I don't get information I can't give good numbers which results in it looking like we're padding the budget.

8:13 And I'm not padding the budget because we're hiding something, I'm padding the budget because nobody has thought about what they want to do in the next year and so I'm trying to make sure there is a reasonable amount of money in case the Town Council decides to do something. And so I just want to state for the record that as budget and finance chair, as the current budget and finance chair, I am hoping that budget and finance will really push Town Council and members of the public to start engaging in this process before May.

8:49 Because by the time we get to May, Budget and Finance has done most of the work and we don't really have the time for people to say, I don't think we should have a real estate tax. What are you hiding money for? Why is this padded? Can we please do this? Can we please do that?

Speaker 1

9:03 Ideally, don't we wanna pass the or have the budget ready to be passed in May if possible with June being our last Yes. Time?

Speaker 3

9:12 And so I'm just I'm just stating for the record, for counsel, and for the public that my personal goal if I continue to serve as budget and finance chair is to make sure that you guys are giving that committee the information they need to do the job that you've tasked us with in the way that we're being asked to do it.

Speaker 6

9:34 Thank you, Mary Kay.

Speaker 3

9:35 Carrie, you're welcome.

Speaker 1

9:40 Mister Tyson, just FYI, to check, this twenty twenty six zero five has Frederick Johnson on the back. Is that the one that does?

Speaker 4

9:48 Because I looked at real estate and it does not.

Speaker 3

9:51 It's correct. Who does? But this one does.

Speaker 4

9:54 It is. Okay.

Speaker 1

9:54 So

Speaker 3

9:55 yeah. So now that I'm gonna climb off my soapbox, I'm going to move that we adopt ordinance twenty twenty six zero five adopting the budget as presented. Second. I'll

Speaker 2

10:09 second it.

Speaker 1

10:12 Okay. Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

10:25 Okay. Next are resolutions appropriating certain funds related to the fiscal year twenty twenty six twenty seven budget and unspent portions of the fiscal year twenty twenty five twenty six budget. So first is resolution 2020 six ten appropriating the fiscal year twenty twenty six twenty seven operational budget.

Speaker 3

10:52 I move that we adopt resolution twenty twenty six ten, adopting the operational budge appropriating, sorry, the operational budget that we just adopted.

Speaker 1

11:05 Alright. A second? Second.

11:10 Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

11:22 Resolution twenty twenty six eleven, approving improvements to the commons, and I was going to stop here before we go to a motion. Are there any comments specifically related to the tennis backboard? And then we'll talk about comments related to the basketball hoop.

Speaker 2

11:46 I I do have a question. Is this, quote, painting for the playground equipment, or is it painting for this this may may have been

Speaker 4

12:02 So you think his estimate

Speaker 1

12:03 was for

Speaker 4

12:03 the playground?

Speaker 2

12:04 Sounds better for the playground because there's a lot of rust on some of the playground equipment. Right. And we asked him to get that.

Speaker 1

12:10 And he did line that up.

Speaker 4

12:12 I don't know that he specified to me. He said if it was

Speaker 1

12:14 I thought that was mentioned.

Speaker 2

12:16 Yeah. I It

Speaker 3

12:16 just says painting, but it doesn't specify

Speaker 2

12:18 the painting. And and

Speaker 3

12:20 Can you go

Speaker 6

12:20 off that off

Speaker 1

12:21 for someone's the last meeting that Yeah. And we were gonna do ground. Yeah. And Just just call it facilities is the stuff.

Speaker 2

12:26 And if if anyone's gonna strike that cork for $2,500, it will be me. Right. Because that is a ridiculous

Speaker 1

12:33 So it's not specific enough.

Speaker 4

12:39 Yeah. So you could edit the resolution saying another. Strike the related quartz striping.

Speaker 6

12:46 Yeah. I think that

Speaker 4

12:47 and, you know, equipment paints.

Speaker 2

12:50 Yeah. That sounds more in line with what because there's several rusted things on the on K. That we need to get taken care of. Does that sound good? Equipment? Yes. And if that is a problem, we'll deal with it at the next council.

Speaker 3

13:03 Okay. So we're striking one c. Right?

Speaker 2

13:09 Yes.

Speaker 3

13:13 And adding one c, which is painting of playground equipment. Mhmm.

13:29 Painting and repair?

Speaker 2

13:31 It's there's a lot of rust that needs to be I I

Speaker 1

13:34 think They'll they'll deal with the rust before

Speaker 3

13:36 they paint.

Speaker 2

13:37 Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of You full can do painting and repair. That's fine.

Speaker 1

13:40 Yeah.

Speaker 2

13:40 It it that doesn't matter. K.

Speaker 3

13:45 Alright. And then the it'll be $10,000.

Speaker 2

13:48 Okay.

Speaker 1

13:48 Right? No. $102.50?

Speaker 2

13:51 I think it was $8,500.

Speaker 3

13:52 1010500. 10 yeah. 105. 105.

Speaker 6

13:55 Alright.

Speaker 1

13:55 So 105 is the number we wanna put in at number one? Yep. Okay.

Speaker 2

14:04 So do we need to do a motion first, a second, and then have conversations about it?

Speaker 4

14:10 I think you just need a motion to adopt if you're ready. Yeah.

Speaker 2

14:13 Oh, okay. So I move that we adopt resolution 2026 dash 11 with the changes of section one c as being painting playground equipment or related equipment, as opposed to pavement markings.

Speaker 3

14:35 Second.

Speaker 1

14:41 Okay. Roll roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

14:53 Alright. Next is

15:00 please. Charles. Yes. I was just looking at Justin's note here. Alright. Next is resolution twenty twenty six twelve, approving and appropriating funds for the Boys and Girls Club of the Northern Neck. Any comments?

Speaker 3

15:20 What were we thinking? 2,000?

Speaker 2

15:22 I think

Speaker 1

15:23 what they asked. Yeah.

Speaker 3

15:29 I'm okay with 2,000.

Speaker 1

15:32 I am too.

Speaker 2

15:34 Yeah. I'm good. Yeah.

Speaker 1

15:36 They have a big need for money in the summertime particularly. Okay. So is there a motion? So moved. Second.

15:50 Okay. Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson?

Speaker 2

15:56 Yes.

Speaker 1

15:56 Westbrook? Yes.

16:00 Resolution twenty twenty six thirteen approving and appropriating funds for the Steamboat Era Museum's Irvington Crab Festival.

Speaker 3

16:09 So first of all, I am going to recuse myself from this, but second of all, I encourage you all to consider 2,500 for the mallets, which is what you all did last year. If you do that, we will do the same.

Speaker 1

16:22 You refuse yourselves, get

Speaker 6

16:24 paid, it won't work.

Speaker 3

16:25 I'm just getting ready to say. But I can't vote on it because I'm share. So I think we need to table this one. Yeah. Yeah. It won't

Speaker 1

16:32 be enough votes if she would

Speaker 6

16:33 choose this.

Speaker 2

16:34 She says you gotta have four.

Speaker 3

16:35 Right. Right. So we're gonna table this one. We'll take it up in July. I suspect the museum will be fine with it. I might know somebody connected.

Speaker 1

16:44 Well, if you have a problem, let us know. I'm I'm just yeah.

Speaker 3

16:50 But I do suggest the mallets.

Speaker 2

16:52 That's fine.

Speaker 1

16:52 Well, and that was that was nice last year.

Speaker 6

16:54 Yep.

Speaker 1

16:56 Okay.

Speaker 2

17:01 She made a big mouth to replace her gown.

Speaker 3

17:04 Yeah. Yes.

Speaker 1

17:08 Alright. Next is resolution twenty twenty six fourteen authorizing purchase of AEDs for public use and appropriating funds from the fiscal year twenty twenty five twenty six budget. So move.

Speaker 2

17:26 Second.

Speaker 1

17:28 What's our cost on that within 9,000 and that's for three? Three.

17:37 Alright. Roll call vote. Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

17:51 Resolution adopting the revised financial policy.

Speaker 3

17:57 Mister Cooper, I understand you've shared comments with Charles. What I'd like to suggest is Budget and Finance really would like this to be adopted at the same time as the budget. I'd like for us to consider still adopting the draft that I shared at this time, and Budget and Finance will go through your suggestions and we can revise as necessary. But the current financial policy is outdated, and I think it's important that we sort of get what we know needs to be cleaned up already cleaned up.

18:32 So that's my 2¢ as budget and finance share as to how to make use of the comments shared by a community member but also keep things moving. I agree, keeping that financial policy on

Speaker 1

18:48 the same timeline as the budget is an important thing It to

Speaker 3

18:53 may come back before next June, depending on what we see from Mr. Cooper's comments on what budget and finance

Speaker 1

19:00 is If we have to re address it, will.

Speaker 3

19:02 Yeah.

Speaker 1

19:02 Okay. Alright. That's fine with me. Alright.

Speaker 3

19:05 So I'm gonna move that we adopt that resolution, which number I don't have at

Speaker 1

19:08 the Twenty twenty six fifteen.

Speaker 3

19:10 Twenty twenty six fifteen, adopting the revised financial policy.

Speaker 1

19:16 Second. Okay. Roll call vote, Bradley? Yes. Cline? Yes. Robinson? Yes. Westbrook? Yes.

19:30 Oh, wow.

Speaker 6

19:32 They've been

Speaker 1

19:32 riding along.

Speaker 2

19:37 Oh, okay. That's it.

Speaker 1

19:39 Yeah. I was just saying, that's

Speaker 6

19:40 what it is.

Speaker 1

19:40 They've been riding along.

19:46 Okay. Just trying to get to my papers. Alright. Next is a closed session.

Speaker 3

19:56 So Thank you for coming, mister Cooper.

Speaker 6

19:59 Thank you very much for letting me see you in the city.

Speaker 1

20:02 It's always a pleasure. He doesn't want You can

Speaker 4

20:04 ask me to stay, but I don't

Speaker 1

20:05 need to. Yep. Yep.

Speaker 3

20:07 But I don't know if I can do this without you.

Speaker 4

20:11 Do a closed session?

Speaker 6

20:15 Thanks, everybody.

Speaker 3

20:16 Thank you. Hi, Roy.

Speaker 6

20:17 Thank you for what you do. I mean, this is it's not always fun, but it's impressive.

Speaker 1

20:22 It's always interesting. There you go. Well, if you can, Charles, why don't you stay because you have helped with part of

Speaker 4

20:31 this. Okay.

Speaker 6

20:34 No one

Speaker 2

20:35 else is in the building to help you anyway.

Speaker 1

20:37 Oh, yeah. Probably. It's probably best. Just to clean it. We have

Speaker 3

20:41 some Oh, yeah. We gotta wait. We gotta go in. Yeah.

Speaker 1

20:44 Okay. So whereas the Town Council of Irvington desires to discuss and close the meeting the following matters, Discussion, consideration, or interviews of prospective candidates for employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, performance, demotion, salaries, disciplining, or resignation of specific public officers, appointees, or employees of any public body, the Planning Commission. Whereas pursuant to 2.2 dash three seven one one a one of the code of Virginia, such discussions may occur in closed meeting.

21:23 Now therefore be it resolved that the Town Council of Irvington does hereby authorize discussion of the aforementioned matters in closed meeting.

21:36 Objections, we will go on to the Does it someone have to move to go into the

Speaker 2

21:40 I move we go into closed session. Second.

Speaker 1

21:43 Yeah. I think we have to do each. Right? No. That's when we come out. Oh, well, that's a certified. That's a certified. The closed, the cert Yeah. We can we can do the yeas and and nays, but I think with where all yeas We just have to put in the quarters. Yeah. Okay. Whereas the Town Council of Irvington has convened a closed session on this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote and in accordance with the provisions of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act and whereas section 2.2 dash three seven one two d of the code of Virginia requires certification by the council that such closed session was conducted in conformity with Virginia law.

22:27 Now, therefore, be it resolved that the council hereby certifies to the best of each member's knowledge, one, only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements under the Virginia Freedom of Information Act were discussed in the closed session to which this certification applies. And two, only such public business matters as were identified in the motion by which the closed session was convened were heard, discussed, or considered.

22:56 Is there any member who believes that there was a departure from the requirements of the motion to convene the closed session? If so, please state the departure for the record.

23:09 If no member states a departure, each member will now please state their name and affirm by saying ISO certified.

Speaker 2

23:19 Philip Robinson, ISO certified.

Speaker 1

23:21 Frances Westbrook, ISO certified. Mary Windsor Cline, ISO certs certified.

Speaker 3

23:26 Mary Carey Bradley, ISO certified.

Speaker 1

23:29 Julie Harris, ISO certified.

23:40 So Move we adjourn? I mean, no. Don't we need don't we need to just state Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yep. We we need to were there motions or recommendations resulting from closed session? No. No action.

Speaker 5

23:56 No. No action was taken. Okay. Alright.

Speaker 1

24:01 Now is there a motion to adjourn? Yes, ma'am. So move. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Opposed? Okay. Alright. That wasn't bad. Okay. Frame wise.